Saturday, October 22, 2016

Final debate part 6, national debt and closing statements.

This is the sixth and final section of the debate held on 10/19 at the University of Nevada between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Discussed in this segment are the national debt and the candidates closing statements.



3rd party responses:



Commentary:

First, before I really get into the discussion here, I want to point out that in this debate, we spend nearly 20 minutes arguing about scandals and not even 10 minutes on the national debt...this is telling...

Now, here's what each candidates plan would do to the debt: massively increase it!

Trump's response: "Well I say they are wrong" but he alludes to magically creating jobs and other indefinite answers to address real economic concerns, and does not acknowledge that his trade protectionism would in fact harm, not help the economy. Trump failed to even address the question at all with anything but continued rhetoric and no actual substance.

Clinton says, amazingly, she won't "add a penny" to the national debt.This is downright false, and if she really believes that her economics actually make sense, that's very concerning. If she doesn't...then she is ok with outright lying.

Trump avoided actually answering the question on entitlements, other than blasting Obamacare (rightly so) but avoided answering on medicare, medicaid, social security, et al, other than saying that his wonderful plan would make it a non issue, even though as noted repeatedly, the data shows that his plan would increase spending, increase the debt, and exacerbate, not fix, the problem.

Clinton would increase taxes and spending, but would not consider any cuts. This would have been a conversation greatly enhanced by third party voices. Neither candidate here seems interested in cutting entitlement spending or even really addressing the problem.

I want to point out again, that in this debate, we spent nearly 20 minutes arguing about scandals, and not even 9 minutes discussing (if you want to call it that...) the national debt and entitlement programs. The problem wasn't even really addressed or discussed, and Trump outright dodged it, while Hillary continued more of the same. This is a vital issue that should not be ignored, and yet, we ignore it and hope it goes away.

As to their closing statements...I don't have anything to say that hasn't been said, but this and the other debates would have been far better with third party voices involved. Trump and Clinton have managed to avoid substantial discussion of the issues, and have bickered and fought rather than presented actual discussion. They have both lied, twisted facts, misrepresented data and statistics. I think Chris Wallace did try to ask some hard questions, but was presented with candidates who fundamentally did not want to discuss policy or answer questions. This debate only confirmed that the two parties are both substantially flawed, and we need to move outside the duopoly and seek better ideas, better policy, and stop accepting the status quo.

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